got an email from a woman whose tag line was "An inherently sovereign being" Lady after my own heart- She wrote thoughtful questions about buying wholesale pine nuts for small manufactures in the food service industry. I thought her questions were well worth sharing.
I was looking on the Internet for sources of bulk/wholesale pinenuts, and stumbled upon your site. After reading some of the background information and other resources on the site, I became very intrigued. My product is pesto. I have never used American pinenuts before, or even tasted one. But I have become convinced, after visiting your site, that I must use them in my pesto.
1.)First, which pinenut would be best for my purposes?
I am in love with the Jumbo Nevada Soft shells (P. Monophylla) more nut for the buck. Also, I know where they grow, who harvested them, how they were handled after the harvest, how they were shipped, processed and stored. As both a producer and a consumer, this supply chain means the world to me. IT is a rich, sweet, fruity pine nut. We are working on a shelled pine nut product, and will produce one, but there are a lot of consideration in working in with a shelled American Pine Nut.
2.) I need nuts that are going to either come shelled or be extremely easy and not time-consuming to shell.
Jumbo soft shell pine nuts are like bananas. When take the shell is taken off - something has to be done to preserve the pine nut meat. The nuts meat have to be roasted, dehydrated, frozen or altered to preserve the food. The soft shell pine nuts are rich in moisture - a huge problem in processing.
With a raw fresh products, you have to use common sense. One cannot put freshly shelled raw pine nuts in the mail on Monday, and have it arrive 3 days later in full order. There would be a large percentage of moisture lost. All that moisture would be trapped in the packaging, spoiling the product. That is just one of this issues faced in pinenut processing. There are many other things to condsider. We are working with care and our long term in mind relationships in mind.
3.) I also need nuts that will keep well, either in dry storage or frozen, and will not lose flavor during storage.
Processing is everything and handling is the balance! In shell pine nuts have a great life span as long as they are frozen or kept in an environment where they can breath. (A real living food!!). The best way to have great pine nuts is to shell them yourself. American pine nuts can not freeze and thaw and freeze and thaw. That will ruin them in a heart beat.
Once we launch our shelled pine nut product, they will be easy keepers. We are just not ready, yet. We are not going to sell an American Pine Nut which isn't perfect. No pine nut before its time. We have a long history of high standards. You can look over the blog and see what we think of people who sell poor products. We have more respect for the forest and our clients than to prematurely launch a shelled American Pine nut.
4.) Is there any possibility of getting samples of the different pinenuts that you have?
(I am sending you a free sample of our pine nuts for writing such great questions 1 lb Grade AA jumbos and our roasted, together with a sample of the hard shell P. edulis. We may launch a sample pack so people can discover the difference in all of our pine nut products. We are the only company which has sorted, graded pine nuts, who carries different pine nut species, and has a roasted inshell Jumbo pine nut - Grade A)
5.)Are any of your pinenuts sold shelled?
We are hard at work on this! No pine nut before its times! When it arrives, it will be perfect!
6.)And if not, what would be the approximate weight of the nuts after shelling?
Great question!!! We lose about 33% of the pine nut when roasting and about 20% with shelling. We have charts on the blog that show various species conversion rates (from inshell to kernel). It is rather amazing to me - just how different the conversion rates are for various species.
7 For instance, if I purchased a fifty pound bag, how much of that fifty pounds is going to be shells that will be discarded?
Do not toss the shells - save them for high value smoking (no not in hooka - but on the barbque.)
Thanks so much!!
Pine nut Penny
p>Williams and Baker’s new study found that open and park-like conditions were not common historically and that high-severity fire used to be much more common in these forests than it is today. Finally, Williams and Baker conclude that current efforts to reduce trees and understory vegetation in these forests under the label of “restoration” would actually move the forests outside of their historical range of variability and harm biodiversity.
New study challenges forest restoration and fire management in western dry forests
February 16, 2012. Laramie, Wyoming. New research shows that western dry forests were not uniform, open forests, as commonly thought, before widespread logging and grazing, but included both dense and open forests, as well as large high-intensity fires previously considered rare in these forests. The study used detailed analysis of records from land surveys, conducted in the late-1800s, to reconstruct forest structure over very large dry-forest landscapes, often dominated by ponderosa pine forests. The area analyzed included about 4.1 million acres on the Mogollon Plateau and Black Mesa in northern Arizona, in the Blue Mountains in northeastern Oregon, and in the Colorado Front Range.
http://ncfp.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/12williamsbaker_preprint.pdf
The reconstructions, which are based on about 13,000 first-hand descriptions of forests from early land surveyors along section-lines, supplemented by data for about 28,000 trees, do not support the common idea that dry forests historically consisted of uniform park-like stands of large, old trees. Previous studies that found this were hampered by the limitations inherent in tree-ring reconstructions from small, isolated field plots that may be unrepresentative of larger landscapes.
“The land surveys provide us with an unprecedented spatially extensive and detailed view of these dry-forest landscapes before widespread alteration” said Dr. William Baker, a co-author of the study and a professor in the Program in Ecology at the University of Wyoming. “And, what we see from this is that these forests were highly variable, with dense areas, open areas, recently burned areas, young forests, and areas of old-growth forests, often in a complex mosaic.”
Link: http://www.slowfoodusa.org/index.php/programs/ark_product_detail/nevada_single_leaf_pinyon/
a tree with much historical significance, the Single Leaf Pinyon is the appropriate choice for the official state tree of Nevada. Bearing nuts with extremely large shells, the edible component of this US native is about the size of an olive pit. The nuts have a rich fruity flavor, which is bolder than most pine nuts found in stores. Single Leaf Pinyons grow on the dry mountain slopes of Nevada, eastern California, and Utah, and are characteristic of mid-elevation habitats in the Great Basin Desert.
The Pinyon pine nut is of great cultural and gastronomic importance to the American Indians of the Great Basin region. Originally, the harvest of the Pinyon began in late summer or early fall. An elongated harvesting pole was used to knock the green pine cones off of the trees; the cones were then tapped upon a small flat anvil stone to release the seeds. The nuts are edible in their raw form, but for easier storage were mostly ground into a mush or gruel and eaten like oatmeal. When mixed with cold water, the meal would turn into a cold soup. During extremely cold times of the year, the pinyon mixture was frozen outside an eaten like ice cream. Pinyon nuts played a very important role in the Southwest American Indian diet, as the nuts are both high in fats and carbohydrates (a rarity among most seeds and fruits).
Unfortunately, today the preparation and harvesting traditions of the Pinyon pine nut are narrow.
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I have the greatest respect for Ms. Grace Tan's research and her intellectual honest, not to mention blog and research skill set and vision. Highly recommendthis blog for pine nut research, pine nut species information, pine nut mouth, entitled: The Great Pine Nut Mystery She is the only resource on pine nut mouth which has done the research and had a clue about the problem.
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A few years back, one of our good friends, Dr. Eric Jones, asked me to attend a conference in Tuscon about sustainabile Agriculture in the Southwest. I got done with the meeting and did not give it a great deal of thought. I have talked about the land use policy in the southwest for more than a dozen years. From Washington D.C. to Portland Oregon, I have attended conferences and given presentation. Most of the time, I am exhausted and left wondering, why I left home. At that conference, I met Dr. Gary Nabahm, and he followed up with me, helping to get the Jumbo Soft shell pine nut listed in the Slow Food Ark. It is a process and there are several stages to being awarded the "Slow Food Ark" status. I was grateful for that work. Today, I happened to see that he did more than that.He wrote about Great Basin Pine Nut and Goods From The Wood's efforts in his book, The book is entitled:
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